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posted May 13, 2011 by AnnietheFox
I don't really understand this. I'm used to Young Writers Society http://www.youngwriterssociety.com/ which is, to me, better than this site. I'm not putting Protagonize down, I'm just bringing YWS up. I don't really understand Protagonize. For Groups, where is the 'join' button? does this site have a chatroom? before explaining this site, you might want to check out YWS. It'll show you what I'm used to. (It is a site worth checking, trust me). can you edit or delete a comment you posted? can you have an inbox in this site, instead of sending emails? that is much easier.... like, can you PM (Private Message) someone?
I could use help.
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by Naoshi_Armitage
Question: what's considered "mature" because the only "bad" word I even have in my story is butt-hole. The story is pretty much clean but I had to change it to mature >.> (*Jerk is just not a strong enough word and it's uncharacteristic of the character).
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by nickbPlus Member
@Naoshi_Armitage Hi Naoshi, the profanity filter is what forces the "mature" flag on. It's based primarily on George Carlin's "7 Dirty Words" you can't say on air -- but with a couple of additions and variations, including the other variety of "butt-hole". :)

If you flag your story for review by the moderators, one of us can tell you what's setting it off.

Cheers,
-nick
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by Naoshi_Armitage
I love George Carlin ^o^ Ah, well butt-hole (now I'm saying it out of spite =_=) I've heard worse and I think it's pretty ridiculous ~~I know when I was growing up (light years ago) something was considered "mature" if stronger words were used more than a certain amount of times (and less strong words were able to be used but also had a certain cap to it). ...Good old times...

But kay, thanks I'll keep that in mind.
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by nickbPlus Member
@Naoshi_Armitage The word "butthole" itself isn't what's causing it. The word I was referring to is the coarser off-shoot. :)

Could be something else that's unintentional. If you flag the story in question I can take a look at it and see if it's something wrong with the profanity filter or something in the text itself causing it. We've had a couple of situations in the past where it was strange string concatenation -- particularly in poetry with no line ending punctuation that caused it.

As for the necessity of a mature filter, that's more of a legal issue than anything. I'd love to have everything go uncensored but we have children under 13-14 using the site in school classroom situations and limiting the accessibility of mature content (and protecting the site from the legal consequences) in those situations is more important than the annoyance of having a mature flag, to be honest.
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by Naoshi_Armitage
I understand about the legal consequences and truly it's supposed (I mean SHOULD be) up to the discretion of the teachers. If they truly did the readings themselves before assigning it, they could discuss or ignore some things ~~~argh anyway in a perfect world, people would exercise better judgment and discretion anyway. And as a continuing rant I've never had friends who were well read who cussed more than my friends who avoided reading like the plauge. And of course it's not limited to "curse words" but again when we make everything taboo it makes it harder to ask questions and learn without being made to feel guilty (etc.) (*Also knowing it's not even the teachers' fault either...)
...Earful sorry but now that that's off my chest ~~ will now flag the story ^o^
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by nickbPlus Member
@Naoshi_Armitage Hi Naoshi, the word triggering the filter is "bull%%@%" (particularly "&@*^") which is one of those seven dirty words. :) Butthole is not the problem.

(And yes, I can post them in here because the filter will automatically catch them if you have it turned on.)

Just star-out the "i" and you'll be fine posting it.

Cheers,
-nick
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by Naoshi_Armitage
Woot ~~ Thank youuu ^O^ (*geez ~how did I miss that??? D:
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by Naoshi_Armitage
D: Distressing!! I took off the Mature marker, but I wasn't able to edit it so I can change bs ~~ what happened to the edit button?? never mind I saw the change (*I also compounded this instead of posting another comment because then I'd be spamming D:
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posted Jun 7, 2011 by nickbPlus Member
@Naoshi_Armitage I've fixed it for you. Your story wasn't set to "always editable", that's why the edit button disappeared. You can change that in Story Options or by editing the very first page of the story. (I've done that for you too.)

That reminds me, though -- I should remove the option to toggle "always editable" when in a solo story. Not really needed there (it's mainly for collabs.)
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posted Oct 21, 2011 by tuggerina
hi! I am new on here and would like to introduce myself, I am olivia and looking forward to getting to know how this website works! I have a question though. I typed a poem on here earlier, but I can not seperate the stanzas! it was double spaces and when I clicked on the preview button all of the lines were together, instead of being in stanzas like they were supposed to be! I had to italicize the first line of each stanza so people could tell the difference. help would be appreciated.
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posted Oct 21, 2011 by nickbPlus Member
Hi @tuggerina,

You can use the SHIFT key to adjust spacing -- holding SHIFT+ENTER instead of a regular linebreak will single-space lines when you post, which helps with stanzas.

Let me know if you have any further questions, and welcome to Protag!

Cheers,
-nick
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posted Oct 22, 2011 by tuggerina
@nickb oh ok! thank you for your help. :)
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posted Nov 16, 2011 by LittleOna
Hello, I just joined but am an long time writer of fiction
http://www.protagonize.com/story/trials-and-tribulations-part-one

This was my first attempt at novel writing. It cracked at about 63,000 words and is under constant edit. I've only published one chapter which is the only one I'm happy with. I started writing this when I was about 14 so please be kind. It was my first brain child, but not my best.
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posted Dec 7, 2011 by CeCe-Marie
Thanks Nick for looking out, that was very nice of you to write. I did need an introduction to the different links to establish myself and get to know other writers. This was an assignment to get to know a Web 2.0 Tool and write about it and explain it to the class. I am glad I picked this site because I have written a lot of poems and would like to get them published one day. Even if I don't get them published as least fellow authors can read some of my works and give me feed back. Thanks again.

Cece-Marie

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